Things I’m not frugal on

Things I’m not frugal on

I’m sure by now all of us reading this will know that the true key to saving money and expanding your investments is to become frugal with your spending habits. There was an excellent program on BBC1 last night; Britain’s Spending Secrets which examined the spending habits of families right across the wealth spectrum and tried to give an insight into how they prioritised their spending. As you might expect, it began with the single mother on benefits who refused to buy anything other than big brand named items.. then went through a few ‘middle income’ families who prioritised private school or children’s activities before finishing on a multi millionaire who claimed to be extremely frugal yet had a fridge full of caviare.

The key takeaway from this program seemed to be that (aside from the brand-snob single mother) all the other families clearly demonstrated an awareness and need to save money yet still splashed out on a few specific things they felt important to them. What might seem like an odd or extravagant purchase to an outsider was actually deemed an essential item by the family themselves. And so it got me thinking: What items do I purchase or things that I do which aren’t particularly frugal? Things which I know I could cut out to reduce expenses, yet still continue purchasing for my for various reasons.

 

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Insurance

My parents were particularly infamous with their frugality (you had to be with 6 children between you) and yet I distinctly remember my mother teaching us the importance of having decent insurance.  To me, purchasing insurance is not only about balancing the risks and costs of something happening, but also about purchasing the piece of mind that comes with having a level of protection. Some forms of insurance are just a given; You’d be mad (and arrested) to drive anywhere in the UK without car insurance, but also taking an extreme life changing risk to not have some form of Buildings insurance on a purchased house. However we also have several other forms of insurance; All the pets are insured, our home contents are insured and we both have life/critical-illness cover. I know that many in the financial community instead choose to ‘self-insure’ by putting what they would have paid in premiums aside to pay for any uncovered losses, however that’s not been a risk we’re willing to take and so remain firmly unfrugal with our Insurance expenses.

 

Megabus

Travel

The best travel deal I ever purchased was back in my uni days; scrolling through the MegaBus website looking for a return ticket down to London for the weekend.. I spotted a £1 Sheffield – London fare coupled with a Free London – Sheffield trip the next day. Add on the 50p booking charge and my return ticket cost £1.50, Awesome! The coach was due to leave at about 7am (it was over an hour late), took 6 hours to do a 2.5 trip (multiple detours to other stops) and was literally falling apart (the roof above my seat had a hole in it, I kid you not) and yet I was happy and prepared to put up with all of this due to the low cost. Not anymore. When we travel to France next week, we paid £10 more for flights that left at a reasonable time and didn’t involve a trek across London to get to Stansted. Similarly when a group of friends suggested we all went skiing a few years ago; I put my foot down at spending 16 hours on a crammed coach to get there despite the £50 saving on flights.

Perhaps its just coaches I dislike, or the early mornings they frequently require? Either way; I’m distinctly unfrugal when it comes to making travel plans.

 

Lottery

The Lottery

I get a lot of stick from certain members of the FI Community around playing the lottery, and yet my ticket remains purchased every week on an automated direct debit. Aside from the fact that if I were to quit now I know my numbers would come up next week, the lottery is the only real form of gambling I do for entertainment. With my averaged returns throughout the year; the cost is about £1.50 a week for the enjoyment and trill of thinking that I might one day hit that jackpot. It will probably never happen and unlike most gamblers.. I know that, however there’s still a chance and so its a small price to pay in my opinion. Plus; when I hit that jackpot I’ll be sure to buy you all a chunk of Vanguard LS 80 Acc ;)

 

 

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Technology

I hate wasting money on pointless technology gadgets. The number of times I’ve been over people’s houses and seen piles of discarded tablets or electronic games which were used once and then thrown aside is astounding. Instead, I purchase very few new technology items but when I do.. I want them to be good. My laptop was almost double the cost of my uni housemate’s when we both got ours back in 2006, and yet mine is still going strong with only a larger hard-drive added. Similarly my desktop and monitors were over £1000 when purchased new back in 2010, yet had ample space for me to add additional components as time went on and still capable of running the latest games. Working in IT and frequently from home; having a fast computer with multiple screens is a luxury I afford myself despite being unfrugal.

 

What do you spend money on despite knowing that others would not consider it frugal? Let us know in the comments below, or join in the discussion on the forums!

11 thoughts on “Things I’m not frugal on

  1. I don’t understand the “insurance on the pets” thing, what’s the point of insuring your pets? Insurance on my life for example, is good for my wife and kids: if I die, they get some money to compensate for the lost income from my job.
    But what is the money going to compensate for on an insurance on your pet if they die? Or is it a health insurance?

    1. It’s vet insurance, So if the cats break a leg or a rabbit eats something it shouldn’t and needs surgery to remove. I’d rather pay the small monthly fee and not have to worry about getting hit by a bill in the thousands.

  2. I aim to get the greatest reduction / cost benefit saving by having a high excess on insurance and self insure the gap. For example on the building I have a $10,000 excess which reduced the premium by $1200 a year. Contents $5000 excess etc.
    My reasoning being I can cope with a bit of drama without too much worry but loosing both the home and all he contents in one go would be a bit drastic.

  3. It’s nice to find some honest and unpretentious thoughts like these in the FI community. Being strictly frugal on everything, as some may claim, is not 1) appealing and 2) sustainable. I’m not unfrugal on the same things, but like you, I have a few things that I’ve reserved the right and pleasure of not being so careful about. It’s like that little piece of chocolate you allow yourself once or twice a week when you’re on a diet: it helps you keep going :)

  4. Hi Guy,

    I also watched the show the other day, and found myself almost screaming at the screen, interestingly at almost all of them! I found it fascinating that they all justified it, but from what I saw in the accounts so little was put into savings or the future thinking.

    For me, what am I not frugal on?
    1. Food. I know I could slash my food bill, but I buy organic free range on most things, and we eat a lot of meat
    2. Travel. When I do travel, my guilty pleasure is business class… I know, I know. Thats why we have cut down on our travel!
    3. Alcohol & Eating out. I know if I cut both of these down I could probably retire a good few years earlier, however for the wine, I buy in advance, so long run it will be cheaper, and to start after I retire would be far more expensive. I justify it to myself as “savings” in that I will be drinking much better wine for a fraction of the price in the future!

    Cheers,

  5. My luxury would be long haul Business Class on an A380, if I could afford it! I don’t really skimp on holidays (or haven’t in the past) and tend to blow money on them – or rather, I didn’t skimp money on holidays when I was working. I do wonder if I’ll view holidays the same in my current retired status. I was also a bit of an Apple fanboy when employed, but now I’m not so sure that I’d opt for their stuff without thinking long and hard about it.

  6. Clothes; I have definite fondness for the casual tailoring of italy, bench made english shoes, britsh made wax/rubberised jackets and nordic winter coats which I find quite essential in england

    Patience can work wonders in getting these things at a fraction of the list price

  7. I fly up front with work (sometimes). The experience is great, but it ruined economy class for me.
    I used to love flying, and had no problem with long haul in economy – free food, plentiful drink, new release films – what’s not to like? (it helps that I’m 5 ft and an ex soldier so can sleep pretty much anywhere). Just another example of hedonic adaptation (like going back to Megabus).
    I’m similar to Guy with tech, working towards more self insurance, and think all non-matched betting should be avoided like the plague. However, I’m all for everyone spending according to their own priorities.

  8. Great post, Guy and good to see it being discussed on the forum!

    Like you, I’m not frugal on the lottery (but does £2 a week really count as not being frugal?) or travel, although to me, flying Economy on an A380 counts as non-frugal! I would rather pay extra so that I don’t have to get to the airport at 5am and fly unsociable hours.

    I’m not frugal with my gym membership because it’s part of my social life and I’m not frugal with technology – my pc cost over £1k but I’m still using it 6 years later. However, my DVD player only cost £25 and I’m still using that 6 years later too, haha!

    Lastly, I’m not frugal when I socialise with friends, since it’s only a once a month event.

    I do find it interesting that you are non-frugal about insurance as that is one thing where low price is key for me.

  9. Hmmm…. you have me thinking….. :-)

    1. I will put “bike stuff” into this category. I cycle to work (11 miles each way) & also cycle socially a fair bit with a club, so i need pretty good cycling equipment like shoes/lights etc. I cycle in all weathers/seasons too so need clothes that are up to the task. I don’t have a gym membership & I also save on an annual travelcard (which would be about £1,400/yr to get me too/from work) so i figure it is still pretty Mustachian. I don’t, however, by the VERY expensive cycling clothing brands – i just go mid-range.

    2. White Goods. We have an almost top of the range Miele washing machine, for example. I think it was over £400 when we bought it about 12 years ago. My brother-in-law has replaced his (cheaper) washing machine(s) twice in this time. I also got a very good boiler when we had to replace our old one (that we got with the house purchase) a few years ago.

  10. I follow you with the technology thing but in recent years I have pretty much stopped buying tech stuff. I think my last one was a decent camera about 3 years ago.
    Work pays for my laptops and phones so why would I need a personal one – amazes me that people bother having 2 phones!? Laptops, fair enough some work ones are locked up pretty good so you can’t do much else on them but luckily mine is pretty much fully unlocked for all I need it for. I may have to buy a personal one soon to do personal work on though.

    I guess most people would say I am not frugal on golf because, well I play golf and that is viewed as a non frugal hobby, but in the confines of what it costs to play golf, I would argue that I am pretty frugal (e.g. I don’t buy all the new gear, balls, magazines, etc…) but will occasionally splash out on a really nice course to play, so in that sense yes I am not frugal.

    I also gamble from time to time so will mention nothing of your lottery habit :)

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